IRC office hours/2010-04-06
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[2010-04-06 13::12:21] Marybelle: What happens to the task forces after the strategy project ends?
[2010-04-06 13::12:22] Irunongames: The man of the hour is here
[2010-04-06 13::12:22] Philippe|Wiki: (good to see Marybelle back, btw)
[2010-04-06 13::12:24] Marybelle: Hi eekim.
[2010-04-06 13::12:28] eekim: hi everyone
[2010-04-06 13::12:32] Tempodivalse: Our guest of honour is here, welcome eekim. ;-)
[2010-04-06 13::12:43] Philippe|Wiki: Marybelle: the idea is that task forces as a construct will still exist... but these particular ones may not :)
[2010-04-06 13::12:44] eekim: wow, such love! :-)
[2010-04-06 13::12:54] Philippe|Wiki: And I'll let Eekim take it from here, and go back to my other meeting, if I may :)
[2010-04-06 13::13:03] eekim: absolutely
[2010-04-06 13::13:10] >> Philippe|Wiki is now known as Philippe|Meeting.
[2010-04-06 13::13:14] eekim: so what have y'all been talking about?
[2010-04-06 13::13:25] Philippe|Meeting: (we just got started, eekim, it's been quiet....
[2010-04-06 13::13:26] Irunongames: About when you were coming
[2010-04-06 13::13:31] Tempodivalse: Not much, really.
[2010-04-06 13::13:33] Irunongames: (just kidding)
[2010-04-06 13::13:35] Tempodivalse: A lot of lurking going on.
[2010-04-06 13::13:43] Philippe|Meeting: I pointed folks towards the task forces (analytics, goals, strategy)
[2010-04-06 13::13:45] eekim: good, good
[2010-04-06 13::13:46] Philippe|Meeting: and that's about it
[2010-04-06 13::13:59] eekim: activity is starting to pick up on strategy wiki in good ways
[2010-04-06 13::14:29] Philippe|Meeting: is officially no longer paying attention to this, and focused back on my meeting
[2010-04-06 13::15:02] Tempodivalse: I haven't participated with the goals stuff, much... Most of my activity on strategy is at the water cooler, chiming in with opinions and helping people out ... rather busy with the writing contest at wikinews.
[2010-04-06 13::15:32] eekim: water cooler is good
[2010-04-06 13::16:29] Tempodivalse: hmmm ... i'll take a look
[2010-04-06 13::17:16] eekim: thanks! that goes for everyone here.
[2010-04-06 13::17:26] lyzzy: eekim: are you talking about http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Plan/Goals
[2010-04-06 13::17:38] eekim: would also love feedback on this page: http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_change
[2010-04-06 13::17:41] Tempodivalse: http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Task_force/Strategy#Facebook_and_wikimedia_4399 looks interesting. I wouldn't have thought of that.
[2010-04-06 13::17:50] eekim: that's right, lyzzy.
[2010-04-06 13::18:32] >> Nihiltres joined the chat room.
[2010-04-06 13::18:47] eekim: hi nihiltres!
[2010-04-06 13::18:54] Nihiltres: hi, made it :)
[2010-04-06 13::19:13] eekim: glad you did :-)
[2010-04-06 13::20:02] Nihiltres: OK, one minute while I clear out a few dozen tabs and finish sending myself an OTRS email, and I'll get up to speed
[2010-04-06 13::20:51] eekim: excellent
[2010-04-06 13::40:48] >> fajro1 joined the chat room.
[2010-04-06 13::40:57] eekim: hi fajro
[2010-04-06 13::41:11] >> fajro left the chat room.
[2010-04-06 13::42:15] Nihiltres: One of the interesting things I notice in the "Theory of change" diagram is that there isn't a direct link between the "Participation by diverse set of contributors looking to fix things" and "Participation by people attracted to expert communities" nodes.
[2010-04-06 13::43:58] eekim: good question
[2010-04-06 13::45:54] Tempodivalse: I started my wikimedia career by fixing grammar errors on en.wp, fwiw
[2010-04-06 13::46:22] eekim: okay, so there's one person. let's do a quick poll. how many people started by fixing errors?
[2010-04-06 13::46:47] Nihiltres: Mixed feelings…
[2010-04-06 13::46:54] mikelifeguard: I did - for enwiki and enwikibooks, at least
[2010-04-06 13::47:26] Nihiltres: I knew I wanted to help out generally, liked the idea of the project, but fixing a minor error in the plot summary for the Matrix film got me to start editing
[2010-04-06 13::47:53] >> hejko left the chat room.
[2010-04-06 13::48:29] Nihiltres: one thing that definitely helped was seeing my change later further improved (by a wikilink)
[2010-04-06 13::49:03] eekim: so one theory might be that intent might vary with new contributors, but most active contributors started by fixing things
[2010-04-06 13::53:03] Nihiltres: hmm
[2010-04-06 13::53:08] Tempodivalse: good points
[2010-04-06 13::53:34] >> Philippe|Meeting left the chat room.
[2010-04-06 13::53:41] Nihiltres: brb
[2010-04-06 13::54:26] eekim: about five more minutes
[2010-04-06 13::55:24] Tempodivalse: Are we talking about Wikipedia, or wikimedia in general here?
[2010-04-06 13::55:29] eekim: wikimedia in general
[2010-04-06 13::55:39] Nihiltres: but Wikipedia is a good example
[2010-04-06 13::55:46] Tempodivalse: ok. because most of the focus, here and on-wiki, seems to be on Wikipedia.
[2010-04-06 13::57:15] >> randmontoya_ joined the chat room.
[2010-04-06 13::57:23] Nihiltres: that's true
[2010-04-06 13::57:40] >> fajro1 left the chat room.
[2010-04-06 13::58:17] Nihiltres: I was bored and created a topic over at http://hunch.com/wikis/ and soon after got a comment from someone surprised, as they'd never heard of Wiktionary
[2010-04-06 13::58:53] Tempodivalse: Heh.
[2010-04-06 13::59:00] eekim: Tempodivalse, check out the Content Scope task force: http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Task_force/Content_scope
[2010-04-06 13::59:56] Nihiltres: eekim: cheers, then :)
[2010-04-06 14::00:00] eekim: thanks everyone! bye!
[2010-04-06 14::00:02] Tempodivalse: ok, pity. today's hour[s] kinda were a bust, disappointing
[2010-04-06 14::00:18] eekim: sorry so quiet, Tempodivalse. hope you'll jump in on the Content Scope Task Force discussion.
[2010-04-06 14::00:19] Nihiltres: eekim: definitely an "active contributors" node would be good
[2010-04-06 14::00:28] eekim: Nihiltres, will add. thanks.
[2010-04-06 14::00:30] Tempodivalse: eekim: I'll see where i can chime in.
[2010-04-06 14::00:38] eekim: thanks, Tempodivalse.
[2010-04-06 14::00:43] >> You left the room.