Talk:Case studies/Baidu and Hudong
Questionnaire for Chinese users on Wikipedia/Hudong/Baidu
A complete comparison of Wikipedia, Hudong and Baidu Baike is critical for us to understand our advantages/disadvantages, and develop our strategy. But besides compare them by ourselves, do you think it feasible and necessary to make a questionnaire for Chinese Internet users, to ask them about their opinion on these three sites. I think it help us to understand the audience and us better. --Tangos
- Hi, Tangos. I agree with you. Could you define some dimensions and draft a questionnaire for us if you have time? And in fact, I had collected some papers which based on questionnaire, but their goal of study is not focus on comparison, and I can share them with you. --Mountain 14:48, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, I'd like to. Please share them with me, thanks.--Tangos
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I've cross-linked from two articles I started (w:Huáng bǎi, w:Cāng zhú). It is pretty clear that on those two very Chinese topics they have a substantial head start; they also contain more text information than the zh.wikipedia.
However, this comes with a disadvantage: the apparent lack of inline references. Though it's possible I missed something obvious (Chinese is not an easy language to get started with...), this would make it impossible to really follow up on their content. More to the point, as user-generated content without a way to check the references, it may not even technically be usable under Wikipedia guidelines, even if the copyright issue weren't a factor. On the plus side, this means that Wikipedia could do better for readers who want to dive deeper.
Where Baidu Baike, Hudong, and Knol are concerned, we should not be overly afraid. Wikipedia started in the daunting shadow of the Encyclopedia Brittanica... we know how that went. Only we can defeat Wikipedia, and only if we give up trying.
Minor technical point: we should consider having an autotranslation link for each of the foreign-language Wikipedias referenced in the sidebar. Bonus point: ... can Wikipedia develop an autotranslator of its own?
I also have noticed some degree of similarity between Baidu Baike and Hudong, which makes me think that some (public domain?) source is being tapped by both. If Wikipedia can find such sources, we can make up for lost time.
Legal issue: I asked at w:Talk:public domain and WikiProject China, but no one answered about what works of the Chinese government are in the public domain. We need to know the public domain policies for all types of publications made by any government, not just the U.S., if we want to expand content beyond the U.S.
Hi, Wnt. On the public domain question, I can give a quick answer:
- most materials from Chinese governments except the sources of laws are copyrighted, and we could not use them directly.
- but there are bunch of old dictionaries or other old resources are in public domain, and they can be used to enhance our weakness on Chinese historical people, geographic entry.