NEW IDEAS

Fragment of a discussion from Talk:May 2011 Update

So a rule that can be ignored?

Corvus Tzu07:51, 12 May 2011

No, just a rule that isn't relevant to the people who are responsible for keeping our servers running. If we were a hierarchical organisation then presumably the Foundation would be ultimately responsible for such things, but we aren't so it isn't.

If there was significant support to change the five pillars to allow original research then I think a site wide poll would be needed.

WereSpielChequers12:21, 12 May 2011

T Think that ORIGINAL RESEARCH SHOULD BE ALLOWED provided that the RESEARCH is BASED ON TRUE FACTS AND COLLOBORATED BY OTHERS.If needed,Site Wide Poll is welcomed. New Ideas which are imaginary,fantasies,illusions and etc. should not be accepted as original research.

VRodrig11010:15, 13 May 2011

agreed

46.208.236.10512:56, 13 May 2011

Sorry, but that's just not going to happen.

Mono16:48, 13 May 2011

hehe well try bringing that up on en.wp Village Pump. Mono is right, that is not going to happen....ever.

Theo1001117:21, 13 May 2011

Actually if Original Research is corroborated by others then we probably do allow it, as long as the corroborators are sufficiently reputable that a peer reviewed journal has reported their work on it. The idea of no Original Research is that we are a Tertiary source, if you have made a new discovery and wish to publish it on Wikipedia then whilst we may be very flattered to be offered a scoop, such things are better left to the News media.

WereSpielChequers21:12, 15 May 2011
 
 
 

That depends. The No Original Research-policy has nothing to do with research. If an idea is recent it depends on the support with reliable sources. What is not allowed is really new/original stuff (whether research is involved or not) that is, not supported by reliable sources. So it all comes down to sources/references. - Brya 05:27, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Brya05:27, 14 May 2011
 

Only reliable sources can tell you what is real and what is fantasy. Otherwise a lot of people will tell you: "This is real, I guarantee!" and the replies would be "Not, it's not!", "Yes it is!", "No it's not!", etc. and there would be no way to decide who is right. If you have new ideas, get them published in peer-reviewed, print-published scientific journals. Wikipedia is not a substitute for peer review.

Tgeorgescu14:03, 14 May 2011
 

Secondary research is allowed in Wikiversity. Source: Wikiversity

So if the Idea has no source but you can infer it using existing sources, then (unless the idea is wrong) You can eventually prove it on Wikiversity.

If it is actually a little original, you can publish it in a journal, and link to it from Wikipedia.

Saeed.Veradi08:53, 10 August 2011