Please take a look at an example about "collaborative"
My experience is also very negative. I have been called a kook, nonsense , fringe and more since I was not agreeing with two or three editors who dominate the discussion and block, laugh, disparage, make their own rules and are more interested in their own power trip that on the correctness of the page. I have been blocked when I worked hard on calmly and politely making my point....the two bosses of the site did not bother to reply or comment, just blocked me invoking their own ideas of troll, sock puppet, ethical rules and the like. I also take issue with damaging live persons with insults and omissions of the positive and big emphasis on the negative. I also think that there are three or four people monitoring some related pages and working together to coordinate their actions and make go away any change on what they do not like. Please look at the Oxyhydrogen page and see what I mean.... one of them RKLawton writes to the other (SteveBaker) "Ignore the OP, keep the article on track. If he continues to be disruptive, we can block him from further editing" and they blocked me because I continued to prove my point. One of them also pointed out that he was free to write whatever he wanted since it could not be enforced legally and it was impossible to prove libel and damage. This is one of the major reasons why you see problems in Wikipedia. I think i could be giving a real contribution to Wikipedia, I speak three languages, i hold two master degrees, I have long experience in editing, I know well art, music, history but from now on I will keep out. By the way, what is OP??? PRGiusi your favorite sock puppet
1. Having your edits reverted does not entitle you to sockpuppetry. It is a basic Wikipedia principle that sockpuppets are not allowed, period. Violating this principle is not done.
2. I saw that you were arguing for HHO as a fuel additive, by electrolyzing water with electric power generated by a generator using some of the force of the gasoline engine. Simple commonsense says that the energy used to split the water molecules is equal to the energy obtained by burning the hydrogen thus obtained. Since the generator has no 100% efficiency, you would lose more energy than you would gain, so it would lower the efficiency of the engine.
3. Wikipedia has a policy against original research. Fringe theories are not accepted. Therefore you should have found reliable sources in order to back up your claims. If you could not find such sources, you were not entitled to make those claims. As simple as that. Self-published pamphlets are not considered reliable sources. In science, reliable sources are print-published, peer-reviewed scientific journals.
4. I therefore guess that none of your Masters were in physics or engineering.
No, I did not argue in favor of HHO.I have no opinion on it and I am not a chemist so I do not pretend to evaluate the scientific aspect. I was taking issue with the fact that there is a distinction between people who sell devices claiming that improve the efficiency of the engine and they commit fraud, and people who are doing research on HHO and publish in peer-reviewed journals. I added the link to the peer reviewed International Journal of Hydrogen and 4 articles reporting pros and cons. I also took issue with the fact that Santilli is called a fringe physicists. The main page on Santilli says "proponent of theories some of which are called fringe theories" and I proposed to keep the same definition in order to be fair to a living person who is damaged in his name and business. They immediately cancelled everything without any argument calling Santilli a nut case and me a kook and worse. No discussion, no explanation except the The Iternational Journal has a poor reputation and therefore it was not to be cited . It has a poor reputation, they said, because publishes article by such a kook person like Santilli. Also they said that nobody came to defend my position and therefore had no value....but nobody came to defend their position either. They first ask for sources and then because they did not like the sources, they eliminate them. Note that you do not need a master in science to see that is wrong to damage a person and that is against the policies of Wikipedia. Note that the "dominant editors" of the page are one a photographer and the other a computer game specialist.... Please, read the erased discussion, if they are stlll to be found somewhere.
Ever heard of Okrent's Law? Mainstream scientists think that Santilli is a fringe scientist, and Wikipedia renders this consensus, since this is what the reliable sources say.
There were no reliable source found anywhere calling Santilli fringe. That is why the article about Santilli define him "proponent of theories some of which are called fringe" is fair in my opinion and the opinion of the editors of that article. I am instead taking issue with the definition of "fringe physicist Santilli" that is in the Oxhyhydrogen article since he has published widely in mainstream peer-refereed journals so he can be fringe in some cases but not all his work is fringe, unless you can prove that the AIP is fringe, International Journal of Hydrogen Energy is fringe, Il Nuovo Cimentio is fringe, Springer Verlag is fringe, the Open Astronomy Journal is Fringe, Plenum publication is fringe.Please present reliable sources that are not blogs or tabloids. I think in the Oxyhydrogen article there is a violation of writing about live persons and hurting them when Santilli is called 'fringe physicist" I also take issue with the fact that nobody bothered to consider the argument I am presenting here is worth some discussion instead of calling names Verderosso and any other person who tried to have a fair editing of the article and engage the editors in a fair way.