What positions should WM adopt (Mandate Q2)

What positions should WM adopt (Mandate Q2)

What position on these key issues (discussed in question 1) should Wikimedia adopt? (e.g., Wikimedia is not supportive of censorship)

~Philippe (WMF)21:51, 4 December 2009

Well, if we take the list of issues originally proposed -- and that I edited slightly below -- as a starting point, I think our basic positions are quite simple:

Net neutrality: For Censorship: Against Copyright: Expansion/modernization Universal access: For... with several consistent "flavors" of local variation depending on the environment [again see my note that digital divide might be too simplistic; open to debate]

Some more nuanced questions:

a. For which of these issues must we reframe existing conversation and understanding (infecting the existing the system with new thoughts from the outside)? b. For which must we write new policy (working within the existing system to change its OS directly)? c. For which issues has someone or some entity already "solved" the problem in terms of a cohesive, compelling frame or policy position? For which issues do we need to create something new?

Perhaps we can discuss this further on our Monday call this week. Looking forward :)

Markgibsonsf01:27, 7 December 2009
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Playing devil's advocate for a minute: Are we truly against copyright? Are we in favor of loosening copyright restrictions and advocating for that? Or simply in favor of advocating against them all together? What about "content liberation" and the open violation of copyright?

Hi Philip, Please read my post on wikilawyering and copyright. Esther H 14:23, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

~Philippe (WMF)02:42, 7 December 2009
 
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What, wait, I just saw the reference to a Monday call. I don't have it on my agenda. Could someone send me the pertinent details, please, so I can get it on my calendar? Thanks! (I don't have to attend these, and probably won't attend a lot of them, but I like the idea of cherry picking the ones I want to.)

Hi Philippe, It should be at eight Continental European Time through Skype. Bij the way: the reply option in Liquid threads does not work for me. See also comments of other users in the feedback posts. Esther H 14:43, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

~Philippe (WMF)02:45, 7 December 2009

Esther in our Dec 7 call talked about fleshing out her wiki-lawyering and exemption doctrine proposal, and connecting Wikimedia internal policy and external regulations (e.g., across Europe, where every country has its own copyright laws... that for example, could be an advocacy position... more universal/integrated copyright law).

Markgibsonsf19:31, 7 December 2009

A specific proposal from Esther re: copyright, creating a European chapter?

Markgibsonsf19:35, 7 December 2009

Asparuh re: censorship. We are 100% against censorship *of content*. We are against the *censorship of access* but there are considerable local and cultural differences of interpretation here that we should be very sensitive to before forcing Western values on the rest of the world.

Asparuh re: net neutrality: we are against private sector or government interference with an open internet. Good to take a very strong stand here.

Markgibsonsf19:44, 7 December 2009

Asparuh rasied a new topic about which Wikimedia might take an advocacy position: which is universal translation and integration of effort across culture/languages. (A digital divide issue.)

Markgibsonsf19:52, 7 December 2009