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NASA thing

Hi smallman, I saw your recent post about contacting NASA, I would be available if you need help and other like-minded editors. Leave me a message when you decide to pursue the idea further.You might want to start by mentioning this on Wikiproject space or a similar space related portal and see how other editors react.--Theo10011 10:40, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

=D. I'm glad to see I'm not alone is seeing the potential value of getting NASA (and NASA related material) on here. I'm not really sure how to go about this...but I'd propose that we create the "NASA collaboration task force". (I really do hate adding layers of bureaucracy...but I don't really see a better way).Smallman12q 21:14, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
There is a discussion at Village_pump/en#NASA_collaboration_3763.Smallman12q 21:14, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
I would suggest mentioning this on project space or space related portal on the English Wikipedia to start with, see what the community there thinks about it. Invite them here, or get some feedback to start with. Also, If you know any admins related to those particular areas it might help this process along. Let me know what you think.--Theo10011 00:15, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
Me too. You can find some of the space related wikiprojects by going to w:Category:Wikiproject Space and look for some highly active people there. Once we've got them onboard, we can figure out what the next steps will be. It may be that some of them already have contacts that we could use for this. ~Philippe (WMF) 00:44, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
Ah...that's a good point, perhaps there are some NASA contributors already...I will put up an rfc at related Wikipedia projects...hopefully it will generate some interest.Smallman12q 02:38, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
I've started a task force page at [[Task force/NASA Collaboration]].Smallman12q 22:52, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Haha.... Well I told you I'll be supportive. It was only a co-incidence, I didn't notice you created the task force page 5 minutes ago. Well Ideally I would have suggested forming a task force first(which you already did), but with at least a few more people who are supportive of the idea besides us. Next, We can locate a PR rep for NASA, and after informing Philippe or Kim (there consent might be needed) we should email them to see what there response is. Let me know what you think.--Theo10011 23:13, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Don't worry, I can probably help out with the email if you are concerned about it. I would suggest informing someone before we send it though.--Theo10011 23:17, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
Agreed...I'd like some kind of "official" backing for such an invitation.
I did some looking around, have a look at these : [1] and [2] . The second link is to NASA.gov, it mentions an email address for public inquiries, also of note on that page, it mentions that currently there isn't a single repository for high-resolution NASA images (I am guessing they would be very large files, especially if they are uncompressed).--Theo10011 23:35, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
Well I know there isn't a single repository...there are a good hundred or so, the images/video are there if you know where to look=P. I would like to suggest that we open a thread on Open NASA (which is created under the Open Government Directive) under collaboration. If we can get a few hundred wikipedia editors to support this...then it could go somewhere.=D...what do you think?Smallman12q 00:41, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Also, according to a tweet at NASACoLab, "RT @nasa Take a look at www.nasa.gov/collaborate. reply to @nasa if anything is missing!" So perhaps we should put up some tweets to http://twitter.com/nasa asking them to come to Wikipedia.=PSmallman12q 00:47, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Great Ideas, have a look at [3], the second most popular proposal by Jon verville is very similar to your idea(the first part) - a collaborative, wiki style knowledge base. Maybe we should leave a comment or contact him directly, if you wanna pursue his collaboration. Mentioning it on their twitter page and the open nasa site might be worth a shot, but again that will probably take time, and our suggestion might be overlooked completely-openNasa site for example has 30 more days of suggesting ideas, then the voting process, then the final recommendations and probably more bureaucracy after that. I suppose mentioning it there couldn't hurt, but approaching the PR Dept. as members and representative of the Wiki community with a simple email might have slightly more legitimacy to it, rather than suggestions left on the twitter page among hundreds of others. We should at least get a prompt response and consideration.--Theo10011 01:28, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

My idea is indeed like NASApedia...though I'd like to see NASA make relevant articles for Wikipedia, we could easily import articles from NASApedia(provided they have a compatible license). I suggest that we make a posting on OpenNASA first, get 50 or so votes, and then send an email to NASA...in this way, we'll be able to show that there is support/a demand from the Wikipedia/Wikimedia community for collaboration with NASA. You are more then welcome to send their PR an email...being an admin you have more clout on Wikipedia...but I would rather start by making a posting at OpenNASA.
Currently, the top item has 35 votes, I'm sure that we can get more than 35 wikipedians to sign on to this.I'm going to start a simple post at Task force/NASA Collaboration/OpenNASA, and once we perfect/agree as to how best to collaborate, we can make the post to OpenNASA. (Please help expand/correct/enhance my OpenNASA post.Smallman12q 00:00, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
OK, I agree with you there. First of all we need more people on the task force, have you left messages at the portals yet. Second, When are you planning on leaving leaving a proposal on OpenNASA, I dont think you would need collaboration for that, its generally individuals pitching ideas to NASA, You can do that in your own capacity, its merely suggesting potential collaborations for NASA. I also agree that we can wait on the direct approach till we have more people on board. Basically we need more people, that should be our priority for now.----Theo10011 04:43, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
I've started a thread at OpenNASA entitled "NASA collaboration with Wikimedia", feel free to vote on it as you see fit. Cheers!Smallman12q 01:02, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Done....... I do think that you should expand a bit upon your proposal to cover a wider area that only images and common. Also, theres a comment posted already, it might be relevant, have you had a look at it yet.--Theo10011 13:10, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Generally, in online forums, one should try to keep one's proposal as short as possible so that more people will read it=P. The comments suggest a NASAwikia or NASApedia which I also support as they could be ported here quite easily.Smallman12q 13:46, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

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Been a while121:37, 17 July 2010

Been a while

Hi Smallman, its been a while since we talked about the NASA collaboration. I had been busy recently and lost track regrettably, did your proposal at OpenNASA get any good response, or the email that we were considering sending?. Just wanted to touch base and see if you are you still interested in pursuing it. Thanks.

Theo1001116:33, 17 July 2010

Yes it has been a while.

My old proposal and Verve's proposal at the now closed feedback site hasn't lead to anything...


You can view the new proposal at: http://opennasa. uservoice. com/forums/9033-nasa-ideas-forum/suggestions/917689-nasapedia-nasa-collaboration-with-wikipedia- (Apparrently the filter blocks it?)

You should ask User:Nasa-verve about the status as he's helped them set up their internal wiki...maybe he'll have something to say.

I'd still like to see a bit of collaboration...I don't see the harm in having NASA engineers expand articles about their missions.

Smallman12q21:34, 17 July 2010