Proposal talk:KiIsWhoWi social net

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Impact?

Some proposals will have massive impact on end-users, including non-editors. Some will have minimal impact. What will be the impact of this proposal on our end-users? -- Philippe 01:11, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Schrotie on Impact

The answer depends on how it spreads. If it becomes big the impact may be massive. If everybody used that site, you'd have to be careful at all times to not offend others because they would comment badly about you (note that we currently tolerate a certain rate of failure in others and this tolerance is likely to extend to KiIsWhoWi). I guess people who know you well would rarely comment badly about you. You don't do that in real life and you wouldn't do that here (because, and this is essential, you are not anonymous on KiIsWhoWi). KiIsWhoWi IMHO has the potential of bringing a village's social control to the global village.

Slander

I spend much of my time on wikipedia deleting attack pages. If you allow anyone to "rate" any other individual without the other individual knowing or agreeing to be rated and without verifiability requirements you throw that away along with any pretense to legitimacy. I would not be in the slightest bit insulted if someone who knew me well was to say that my favourite sandwich was bacon and mushroom with brown sauce, and that as a teenager I used to brew wine and beer. But if were an imam, rabbi or teetotaller that would be an attack. If those things could be said about me or anyone else without the person knowing and without verification how could you avoid burying the wiki under attacks? WereSpielChequers 13:51, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

Schrotie on Slander

One thing has to be verified for it to work and that is the identity of all rating/commenting participants. Imagine KiIsWhoWi becomes as big as Wikipedia and most netizens are mentioned there. Then your KiIsWhoWi entry may become pretty significant to you. If you publish lots of bullshit about others, these others (at least some of them) will comment back about you and these responses will not be favorable.

Now imagine you comment on an imam, rabby and a teetotaller (whatever that may be) about their bacon sandwhich habits. People who really know them will comment that this is bullshit, they themselves will comment that you published bullshit about them and your credibility will go down the drain. This is how the world worked before society was atomized, and this is how it should work. You should not be able to professionally f**k up people's lifes and still be highly esteemed in your golf club - or in the worst case take that bonus payment move away and begin your social life from scratch. You should take responsibility for your deeds, and KiIsWhoWi aims at bringing this idea (back) to information age.

Once you get that idea, you may be horrified by the implications. Therefor there are some other things we will have to learn (again) if we are to follow that path: Humility and forgiveness (BTW I'm no Christian). Pair that with the tolerance we learned in the last decades and you might get a tolerable picture.

BTW, slander is a problem of asymmetric media where you cannot talk back. TV can kill you in 30 seconds. I certainly cannot, at least not without a very high personal risk.