Proposal talk:Values - what is important to us, as an organization?

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Choose our battles

Thank you, Dedalus. I think that maybe this can be the right opportunity to address another problem: we said several times that "we have to choose our battles". So, which battles are valuable for us? This problem has been called to my mind by the actual and "proposed" lawsuits (e.g. from powerful politicians to remove embarrassing information from their Wikipedia article, but I remind also a September 2008 discussion on the Protocols of the Elders of Zion). Does the freedom we want include the possibility/need to report "inconvenient truths", or this is a secondary goal? Often people can't understand our (of the Wikimedia Movement, of The Wikimedia Foundation, and of our specific projects like Wikipedia) position on this issue (see the last speech of Richard Stallman at Wikimania...). Nemo 10:59, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Free educational resources

Maybe this is quite outdated? At Wikimania, if I remember correctly in Liam's Wikimedia & Museums - why we need each other and what we can do about it presentation, it was pointed out that our mission is not only to develop free educational resources on our websites, but also to get institutions adopt free licenses for their educational resources on their websites (and not only websites). Nemo 10:59, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

That might depend how you read the paragraph on "freedom" in the set of values. The way I interpret freedom in our set of values happens to coincide with Liam's view. Dedalus 11:47, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
Yes, but maybe we can clarify that. Nemo 18:40, 12 September 2009 (UTC)


Public domain enhancement, general copyright/"intellectual property" issues, net neutrality... Should we include something on such issues in our values? And, if we say that e.g. the opposition to copyright duration extension is a value for us, should we assert this only with our "ordinary business" (our websites), or also do some advocacy/lobbying? (Well, this is more a "mission" problem, maybe? And maybe advocacy is not a goal for WMF, but for chapters: see also Proposal:International Wikimedia Chapters Network.) Nemo 10:59, 12 September 2009 (UTC)


Some proposals will have massive impact on end-users, including non-editors. Some will have minimal impact. What will be the impact of this proposal on our end-users? -- Philippe 00:00, 13 September 2009 (UTC)