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The problem with starting out with "Based on comments I've seen around the net" is that if Wikipedia improves and becomes friendlier, we won't see any large number of online comments saying "I created an article and it was not deleted and everybody is happy". Because it's only those who see their articles deleted that complain. Still, Wikipedia is growing in size and attracts new contributors all the time, so something must be working.

LA217:53, 14 March 2011

I like the idea to move incomplete articles to user space vice deleting. But I also think we should consider what is going on in the psyche of vandal wackers and deleters, especially if that is all they specialize in (never making content themselves). I'm all for deleting cruft. But I routinely make new stubs that PASS the NPP. But I never get any comment from the one who looked at it. Obviously all they care about is getting rid of the crap, but have ZERO interest in creation. They don't even take a quick minute to pen a sentence or two in the article talk. All stick, no carrot.

I'm not asking for a lot...but why does it not occur to them to engage with the content at all? I'm sure they chat up a storm in the IRC and the like. They should change their attitude of only thinking about eliminating the negative and also accentuate the positive. This blows their mind though...and they've never considered it. Are so engrained with the defend the wiki. And I'm not even asking them to stop wacking a single vandal or deletin a single article. But they have NO interest in the possible positive aspect of NPP!

TCO20:17, 14 March 2011