Telephone friends and ask them
Telephone friends and ask them
Why am I seeing this on any topic each time when I click to reply? --Brother Officer 23:26, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
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I have asked some friends, in the past, about posting and they weren't interested. I am going to ask them again and find out via casual conversation plus I am going to as some others that I have not asked before. I can collect some opinions of non-contributors this way. None of these are shy and all have a university education so it will be interesting to learn what they have to say. Other contributors here can do the same thing but will they? Is this somewhat not like trying to get more contributors to come to wiki areas -- or is it? Who among you few posting has the courage to do this? My guess is two at the most if that many and in all honesty I expect none will. It is somewhat of a challenge.--Brother Officer 01:12, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
Okay, I just now got off the telephone after speaking to a professional linguist. He knows several languages and went through a university on a scholarship. I have known him all of my life minus 7 years. I asked some of the questions I have seen here. He does use wiki areas from time to time. He stays very busy but he has his spare time. He stated that in reference to contributing, he had "just never thought of it." When busy researching one gathers information from many sources and moves on. I especially discussed the Spanish areas with him because I know he has had over eight years of Spanish and taught Spanish. He also has several years of French and Latin and some Italian. I asked him to please consider some of what we are doing here and of the questions he asked me I told him that you can create an alias if you want to. Since he had never thought of writing on a wiki area he didn't know one could create an alias. This fellow is a professional and years ago he worked for the Peace Corps. Did anyone else telephone anyone and ask they why they don't contribute to one or more of the many wili areas? It is good to tell people that there are these various areas because this fellow I chated with loves languages. He is sharp and knows what he is doing so if someone were to "troll", as I read in another post here, or be foolish towards him, he would not continue to waste his time. This is why I thought of allowing some people to create and not allow others to but in on their work as I have stated in another message here called "from my experience" I myself wonder if anyone reads these ideas that I write and more so follow up on any of them or am I just wasting my time here? --William Maury Morris 01:18, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
Brother Officer; Since your User page is empty, I would not normally be inclined to respond to your question. Please don't take offense, but I generally take wiki users less seriously, if they don't provide any information about themselves.
I would not have a problem with checking with people I know to get their opinions, but I would prefer that we (the Quality Task Force) first decide that this is a priority. My time is limited (I happen to have been on vacation this week, and had more time). I don't want to be going off in many directions without some clear plan.
I understand your points MissionJim and I will state this for now. I looked in here to see what was taking place in all areas. I have nothing on my user page mainly because I am rarely ever in this area. I was passing through one day and filled in a bit of information and then moved on to the areas that I am usually in. What I dislike about a User Page is that the world can read it. Google picks them up so with the opening in the wall I'm not inclined to tell the world about myself but I would do that with an administrator via e-mail if it were necessary. Besides, the user pages I have seen look like to me that some people are bragging and too it obviously takes a lot of time to make them pretty and I spend that time doing what I was doing just before I came here moments ago -- transcribing an entire book dated 1849. Transcription is what I like best. I ended up here only because I wandered into my talk page and found an invitation by Phillipe whom I have never heard of. I contribute to wikipedia, wiki commons a little and place transcribed books on wikisource. My entrance here is unusual but because of the polite invation I participated. Back to my book for the night. Oh! I rarely am offended by anything anyone writes. I have been in a lot of discussions and debates on listservers and my hide is thick. I am not inclined to get offended. I myself am on no task force and have no desire to be on any. I am mainly just posting books to wikisource at this point and I enjoy doing this. I came here by invitation to try to help with ideas. I may think about doing a User page but to me it seems like a waste of time when I can work on transcribing books to wikisource with the spare time I am allocated.
Very Respectfully, --Brother Officer 08:19, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
Brother Officer; It is very interesting to hear that you enjoy transcribing. I have wondered how Wikisource process occurs. Do you type every word, or do you have some OCR tools that help you digitize the info? I had considered posting a book that I have, but I decided that I would prefer spending my time doing research and organizing information in articles to make them easier to read.
This is a good example for one of the other threads that talks about how there are many ways to contribute. It also points out that everyone has specialized interests and skills.
I understand why you wouldn't want to post a lot of personal info on your user page. I do find it helpful though when people provide some information on their interests and background. Even though all the info provided could potentially be fictitious, I feel that most of the time people try to be accurate. It gives me the sense that I am talking to a real person.
Thanks for contributing.
Mission.Jim
I'm willing to converse on just about anything but are we not off topic here? I don't want to get into trouble by writing here. I detest arguments and attempts at put-downs. Are you and all others here administrators? Following your lead and in reply to your questions, long ago I typed old books by hand. They were old and rare books in universities and one could not check them out. (I also buy and sell old and rare books but this is a new three year hobby.) Therefore, I wrote the books down on paper and later typed them into computer. I have a lot of determination. I often like tasks others don't want to consider. The victory of accomplishment with such things is that much greater. I like the challenges. With books I now use OCR but because they are old books one has to do editing by hand. OCRing old books isn't the only thing I like. It's just what I am doing now. I like just about everything. I've started many topics on wikipedia and contributed to many more. Now I am working on old books. They're fascinating, a step back into time. Wikisource itself has many options but I choose to work on my own projects. I do type out portions of the many volumes of books wikisource has. Those are already scanned and the image is beside the scrambled text that has to be looked over and corrected. I work on articles and books that I have an interest in. I don't care much about modern books unless they are a spin-off from old books. I don't care for fiction (except a few classics) aside from it being on television. BTW, have you ever met any achiever whose time is not limited? :0)
Kind regards, --Brother Officer 21:26, 29 November 2009 (UTC)