Getting from five recommendations to four: bury social networking?

Making room for it as a fifth recommendation, geared more towards reader conversion, might be a good way to salvage it. I can get on board with that. I read a few objections that social networking won't do much to help, but seeing as our other community health recommendations will have no direct impact on converting readers (except maybe the "find stuff to do" interface), it would be good to do at least *something* for reader conversion.

The remaining objections relate to forming groups for the purposes of advancing an agenda, and canvassing a group in a way that runs counter to building a consensus. I've said before that this is an objection I share, but I don't think it's insurmountable. We could at least mention the objection, and maybe even come up with a few ways to prevent it, or address it once it happens.

Randomran22:46, 14 January 2010

As it is up to the larger community to decide whether or not to actually implemt the recommendations or not, I think it is a good idea to pass this idea on to the community. Make notes about what the possible pitfalls might be. I don't think it is a good idea to drop a recommendation with great potential just because of the uper limit of 4 recommendation. Especially not as some Task Forces not has produced any recommendations at all, and the total amount of recommendations are less than initially hoped for.

Dafer4509:30, 15 January 2010

Go for it. I'll link up a fifth observation if you set it up.

~Philippe (WMF)16:21, 15 January 2010
 

FloNight is already working on adapting it for "reader conversion".

But if you think it's a good idea, we can have a second version of the same proposal here, giving us five recommendations.

Or we could just post some kind of link to a single unified version.

Which makes more sense?

Randomran16:33, 15 January 2010

My preference is that it be endorsed by a group and not an individual. Community Health has so far not succeeded in coming to agreement on any proposals, so my preference is that (rather than being a recommendation of a single individual, as at community health where it is essentially just FloNight - and me by proxy), it be proposed by a task force. I think it carries more weight that way.

Sorry, Flo, for having you do it over there just to request that it be proposed here! Philippe

~Philippe (WMF)17:41, 15 January 2010
 

Got it. So to be clear, the community health task force will make five recommendations, which will include a cleaned up version of social networking. And we'll leave the reader conversion task force alone?

Randomran18:40, 15 January 2010

That would be acceptable to me.  :) If one of you would just add the new recommendation to the /recommendations page, or let me know what the page name is, I'll do it.

~Philippe (WMF)19:13, 15 January 2010
 

Done. Hopefully I haven't missed it anywhere else.

Randomran21:56, 15 January 2010
 

We propose social network project to "Expanding Content" task force

http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Task_force/Expanding_Content#Proposal_-_Fusion_of_social_network_and_Wikimedia_2757

http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposal:Fusion_of_social_network_and_Wikimedia

Let me move proposal to this task force.

I think it is reasonable to deal with social network features in one place.

Achech21:48, 17 January 2010