a proposal

Fragment of a discussion from User talk:Eekim

We can only try :) I'd be happy to give it a shot. As for the task force, here's a few guiding principles/goals, and issues to get us started:

Principles/goals:

  1. The Wikimedia community is hard to navigate, and this partially has to do with cultural norms and invisible roles.
  2. Making roles visible should help newer editors recognize more experienced editors and vice versa.
  3. Recognizing volunteers in good standing can make them feel appreciated and prevent burnout.
  4. Decision-making should remain egalitarian and open.

Issues:

  1. New editors often mistaken any old warning for an official administrator notice that represents community norms.
  2. New editors cannot tell which users are modeling best practices and behavior.
  3. Experienced editors often fail to see an editor's newness, and accidentally WP:BITE the newbies. (Assuming good faith.)
  4. Collaboration is difficult without trust. Editors with positive history will be more collaborative than complete strangers.

(Just my first shot.)

Randomran16:36, 21 June 2010

This is a great first shot. Do you want to start a task force and articulate these principles there? We can call it the Volunteer Task Force or something similar. I'll jump in there.

Eekim22:18, 29 June 2010

Starting a task force is a good idea. Not sure what I'd need to do there beyond just making one page. It should probably have a more well-defined scope than just volunteers in general, otherwise it's likely to retread over the same themes as the community health task force. I'd rather spend more time trying to get to the implementation of an idea than to spend another few months discussing ideas. I think that's what Wikimedia needs now.

Randomran11:36, 30 June 2010

The theory behind the current structure is that, if there's a concrete idea, someone should write it up as a Proposal, and people can self-organize around that. If some thinking among multiple people is necessary to generate a Proposal or other useful documents -- a statement of principles, for example -- than those people should create a Task Force, and these documents should be articulated as deliverables.

In this case, you've already written a concrete proposal about how to start doing this work. So maybe we should start there? If yes, then I've already signed up on that proposal, and I'm willing to go with it. Please be patient with me, though. Lots of discussion going on right now around the Strategic Plan that I need to participate in over the next few weeks. (Hope you can help with that too.)

Eekim16:21, 30 June 2010

Sounds good. Where's the proposal you signed up for? Or did you mean figuratively, and you're waiting for me to create it? I guess I would start by turning the community health recommendation into a proposal?

I'll be around to help with the strategic plan in the meantime.

Randomran21:53, 1 July 2010