User talk:ChrisiPK/Archive

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-- Philippe 21:27, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you!

ChrisiPK - thank you for the translation of the welcome template! That one was on the list for translators-l to do, but I'm so pleased that you got there first. It's bugged me that we can only welcome people in English. -- Philippe 21:46, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. I'm planning on doing a bit of translation work here (hopefully all of the basic pages for German) in the weeks to come. BTW, you might wanna rethink the way you use message templates on user pages, this leads to a bit of confusion: When clicking the edit link on the user talk page, it takes you to edit the template (see here, just got fooled myself). We had this issue over at Commons as well, but have resolved it now by using two separate translation templates: one for the section header and one for the actual text. Check it out, e.g. on commons:Template:Dont recreate. Regards, --ChrisiPK 21:50, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This was a great call, and thanks for doing it. -- Philippe 20:23, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, anytime. ;) --ChrisiPK 21:53, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Localize

Done. Can you check it, please? :) -- Philippe 17:46, 13 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Flags

Hi Chris,

Thanks for all the great work you're doing. It was nice to not have to worry about the wiki while I was doing other work today, and that's in large part due to people like you. I wanted to mention one edit that you made here, which I have reverted. My concern with using flags for languages - despite the fact that it's standard usage, is that it encourages nationalism and exclusivity. Particularly with that flag, it seems to imply that English is limited only to the US and the UK, when we all know that's not the case; it has become a prime or secondary language for much of the world. In a multi-cultural environment, such as this one, symbols are important, and I'm not sure that's the one we want to send. I'm going to remove the flag from articles. I think the question as to language at the top is sufficient, but I'm open to other ideas you might have.

Again, I'm very grateful for everything you've done, and hope you'll continue to it - I just wanted to explain why I'm reverting the flags. -- Philippe 07:24, 15 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I was thinking about creating a "Random proposal" link in the sidebar so people could just go through the proposals by this link and maybe find something interesting. I tried this several times and found out that it is sometimes not easy to tell which language the proposal is written in, often because people don't put their language name where it is supposed to be. I thought adding the flags would be a good way to make this easier for people, so they would realize at first sight what language the proposal is in. I understand your concern of nationalism, but I think we won't have interlanguage discussion anyway at this point. When we see some proposals getting more input and/or attention than others, we should localize that ones so they can be discussed in as many languages as possible but until then, I'm afraid we don't have any other chance than to discuss some proposals only in the language they are written in. Anyway, I don't feel too strongly about the flags, so don't worry about removing them. ;) Regards, --ChrisiPK 12:46, 15 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I"m working towards having the proposals localized. :) I understand your thoughts... trying to find a good way to handle it. Thanks for your willingness... :) -- Philippe 17:14, 15 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

+sysop

You're getting it momentarily. Go ahead with the reader feedback localizations. :) -- Philippe 21:59, 15 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, will do. BTW: Is there any current sysop/deletion/whatever policy that I should be aware of? Regards, --ChrisiPK 22:01, 15 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Good question, and yes. Generally speaking, we are extremely light on the delete key. Even if it's a blank proposal, I'd rather slap a {{cleanup}} tag on it than delete it immediately. A core tenant of wikis that I am afraid has been lost is that you were originally able to "do a little, save, and then let someone else work on it". We're trying to encourage that type of collaborative environment here. If it's obvious vandalism, get rid of it. If it's uncivil, get rid of it. If it is at all questionable, lean toward the side of "keep" but monitor it. Assume good faith in massive quantities, and remember that this is a multi-lingual and multi-cultural community that is often working outside their native language. The last thing that we want to do is run someone off because we got delete happy and nuked what could have been a good proposal. If in doubt, leave it, or email me. Very good question, and thank you for it. -- Philippe 02:42, 16 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

moin

moin ChrisiPK,

an working invation for translations ;) (important are the fact base pages)

and some answers:

end of phase I: 01.10.09

the deadline for proposal translations is flexible

king regards -- Jan eissfeldt 04:36, 22 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that, but I'm afraid I'll have to pass for now. I'm going on vacation on early Saturday morning until September 12th. I will certainly try to work on those when I get back. Regards, --ChrisiPK 18:42, 26 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Welcoming Users

Hi, just wanted to drop a note to let you know that User:Mwpnl configured a welcome bot for us - there shouldn't be any need to welcome users manually any more. But watch for a malfunctioning bot, just in case, and block it if it's being bad. It's User:StrategyBot. -- Philippe 19:00, 2 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome extension

ChrisiPK - about the welcome extension: indeed. I've had a bugzilla request in for weeks. Since it's not a high priority, it's simply not happening (which is right and good - high priority stuff goes first, always). Rather than have nothing, we've got the bot. :-) -- Philippe 00:10, 13 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, that's good. Regards, --ChrisiPK 01:02, 13 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mediawiki sidebar

Random proposals is up on the sidebar now :-) -- Philippe 05:42, 16 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Uhm, it's not showing for me, is it for you? Regards, --ChrisiPK 11:48, 16 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Special:Random/Proposals is in "navigation" side bar, item 6 out of 7, and is visible to me ... depending on your preferences ... it is not your language preference (visible both in english and dutch), it is in the preference of skin = appearance = uiterlijk, not visible in vector, but visible in monobook. Dedalus 12:09, 16 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, if it's not visible in Vector, that is a major flaw as that is the skin most people use on this wiki. Do you have any idea why it does not show in Vector? Regards, --ChrisiPK 12:28, 16 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

odd... Visible in vector for me... -- Philippe 19:07, 16 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Even - it is visible in vector if you set english, set preference to Dutch, and it won't be visible. Dedalus 13:32, 16 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Odd - after changing MediaWiki:Sidebar/nl Random Proposals is visible even in the Duch version of vector skin. Dedalus 13:37, 16 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Finally you'll find in the Dutch version of the skin a link "Willekeurig verbetervoorstel" in the sidebar - which links to Special:Random/Proposal. Dedalus 13:47, 16 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It works now in Vector. Maybe this had to do with the recent software update. Thanks everyone and regards, --ChrisiPK 14:34, 17 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Translation

Hi ChrisiPK, eigentlich wollte ich mit der Übersetzung von Call_for_participation/Task_force_application/de beginnen, muss aber jetzt unerwartet weg. Falls du also Lust dazu hast, hast du freies Feld. --Lyzzy 12:16, 16 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jup, kommt im Verlauf des Tages, stand ohnehin auf meiner Todo-Liste. Grüße, --ChrisiPK 12:29, 16 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reponse

On my talk. :-)