Template talk:Question

Problem with templatized hection headings

Transcluding a section heading causes the section edit link to point to the transclusion source, i.e. this template, rather than the page on which it is transcluded, i.e. where this template is used. This works well for applications where the section itself is, or lies within, a transcluded (sub-)page, e.g. at Wikipedia Articles for deletion; but trying to templatize section headings, as in this template, creates section edit links that are useless and misleading.

I don't have an alternative suggestion for the intended application right now, but the current approach simply doesn't work. ~ Ningauble 13:51, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

I completely agree. It mustn't be used on public talk pages yet, if at all. Standard Wikipedia talk page formatting should be used. There is no justifiable reason to cause such difficulty for so many editors.

User:Fasten's total reformatting of Talk:Emerging strategic priorities/ESP 3 key questions has caused real problems. Notice that right before that edit it was a normal talk page, and afterwards the edit tabs stopped working properly, with fragments of code(?) left visible. I was notified on my talk page that I had inadvertently added a comment in the wrong section, but now the section edit tab won't allow me to edit the section. What can be done about this situation? I thought changes should make editing become easier, rather than more complicated. While it's true that improvement can only occur through change, lots of changes can be made without real improvement.

The whole talk page is screwed up now. The only way to edit is to edit the whole page. That won't do, so this template needs to be reserved for some other situations, and User:Fasten should be encouraged to undo the damage (s)he has done. I'm sure it wasn't intentional, but totally changing the way a public talk page functions in so radical a manner is disruptive and counterproductive. This is a matter of MoS, not individual editors who impose such changes on everyone else. From the comments on my talk page, (s)he isn't inclined to do anything because I'm the only one who has complained. Well, complaining is also hard to do, since a talk page doesn't have its own talk page, and I can't edit the page! -- BullRangifer 00:05, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

You could have used the Village pump to discuss the modification: http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Village_pump#lqt_thread_212. By the way: One can edit sections in the talk page, but only the ones that are not inside templates (as indicated by background color).

I am, of course, willing to fix any problems. Currently I would do the following:

• Because MediaWiki is unable to address sections by name in the REST API and the numbers of enclosing sections cannot be determined with parser functions I would add a parameter to the template and add the section numbers manually.
• Alternatively I would remove the template but I do think the previous state of the talk pages was not very readable. Readabiliy does seem more important than the convenience of adding content because pages should be read much more often than written to. --Fasten 08:39, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Please use http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Village_pump#lqt_thread_212 for further discussion of the topic. --Fasten 12:35, 24 October 2009 (UTC)