Separate health issues?

There's just not a chance in hell that we lost 150 administrators in 2 years to the sudden onset of obesity, or obesity related illnesses. Obesity has been a problem since long before that. That's the causal link that's missing for your hypothesis. Whether you're a statistician or not, you should already know that a theory with no causal link is junk science. It's absurd that Americans can be suffering from obesity for decades and suddenly all drop dead in the span of two years. It's so absurd that I'm convinced that this is a joke gone horribly bad and you're enjoying wasting everyone's time. You haven't convinced the few people working on this survey. And now that you've drawn more attention to it, you've only gained more detractors.

If it makes you feel any better, let's pretend you're right that the "community health" metaphor should be taken literally, and huge portions of the community coincidentally started suffering from physical ailments in 2007. We still have questions in the survey that allows contributors to say that "I stopped contributing because of something that happened in my life: it had nothing much to do with Wikipedia." We also have a series of open ended questions that allow contributors to tell us why they left, which will allow them to talk about health problems. In the bizarre event that you're right, it's not like we've taken away the chance for them to tell us, assuming they are able to get out of bed.

Randomran15:40, 6 July 2010

At this stage, we are trying to isolate contributing factors. Nobody has claimed that there is any one solitary cause. If you admit obesity has long been a problem, why do you want to omit survey questions concerning exercise?

Your sarcasm and hyperbole isn't very professional, but it's better than repeatedly reverting without comment as you had been.

71.198.176.2200:45, 7 July 2010

I think it's safe to say that you have failed to achieve consensus on this issue, by any definition of it.

~Philippe (WMF)07:54, 7 July 2010

Philippe, will you agree to a public debate to resolve this impasse?

71.198.176.2222:10, 12 July 2010

No. There is no impasse, James, only you trying to advance a position when you've failed to find a single person to support your position.

This is ~my~ last comment on this. I won't be drawn into your antagonistic games. You won't succeed in needling or pushing me into further comment.

And unless you generate consensus, your position will remain the minority position, and not the consensus position.

Here endeth the statement by me.

~Philippe (WMF)01:46, 14 July 2010