IRC office hours/2009-10-27

[11:04pm] Bejinhan: hello britty

[11:04pm] Philippe|Wiki: britty

[11:04pm] britty: 1pm just after a lunch: perfect schedule

[11:04pm] Philippe|Wiki: britty, I do it for you

[11:05pm] britty: though just before i've seen all my zh friends went out for lunch

[11:05pm] britty: Philippe|Wiki, merci

[11:05pm] Philippe|Wiki: Well, a couple of updates for you while we wait for eekim.....

[11:05pm] Philippe|Wiki: LiquidThreads is... well, busted.

[11:05pm] Philippe|Wiki: And TimStarling and Eekim are working it

[11:05pm] Philippe|Wiki: while waiting for daybreak somewhere on the east side of the Atlantic

[11:06pm] Philippe|Wiki: I'm excited that Wikimedia-Brazil is hosting a series of "unconferences" focusing on Strategy

[11:06pm] eekim joined the chat room.

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[11:06pm] eekim: hi everybody

[11:06pm] eekim: sorry i'm late

[11:06pm] Philippe|Wiki: I'm pleased to join for the first of the series.

[11:06pm] Philippe|Wiki: Hey eekim

[11:07pm] Philippe|Wiki: I was just metioning the Brazilian unconferences

[11:07pm] Philippe|Wiki: errr, mentioning, too

[11:07pm] eekim: excellent

[11:07pm] Philippe|Wiki: and, of course, like the rest of the staff we're thrilled to be in the Foundation's new offices (with conference rooms!)

[11:08pm] Philippe|Wiki: Eekim, you wanna talk about the changes to the wiki?

[11:08pm] eekim: well, we're trying to make it clearer

[11:08pm] eekim: it's gotten a bit bloated

[11:08pm] Philippe|Wiki: oh yeah, and... ****BEGIN LOG**** somewhere after Natalie's crass comment above

[11:08pm] eekim: and we could still use help figuring out how to unbloat it

[11:08pm] eekim: i think we're on the right path

[11:09pm] eekim: the important thing at this point is to start discussing/exploring the key questions

[11:09pm] Natalie: Unconference. Now there's a great buzzword.

[11:09pm] eekim: so all of that content is now on its own page

[11:09pm] Natalie: I want to see more buzzwords like that.

[11:09pm] eekim: pages

[11:10pm] eekim: Natalie, we plan on leveraging social media and incorporate the Wiki Way to maximize community engagement

[11:10pm] Philippe|Wiki: strategy! synergy!

[11:10pm] Natalie: "The facilitators strategically tweeted during their unconference."

[11:10pm] Natalie: eekim: Better.

[11:10pm] britty: Natalie, so why not tweet this meeting itself?

[11:11pm] Philippe|Wiki: crap, did i forget?

[11:11pm] Philippe|Wiki: wait, no... I did that

[11:11pm] Philippe|Wiki:

[11:11pm] Natalie: britty: I have so many rude comments to make right now.

[11:11pm] • Natalie continues to bite his tongue.

[11:11pm] britty: Philippe|Wiki, i mean to tweet all log just presroi did for a meeting in germany

[11:11pm] britty: Natalie, hehe

[11:11pm] eekim: why are you holding back, Natalie?

[11:11pm] eekim: let's hear it

[11:11pm] Philippe|Wiki: Nat, that's rather unlike you.

[11:12pm] Natalie: I've been a big fan of twatting since the beginning.

[11:12pm] eekim: yeah, maybe you should have kept biting your tongue

[11:12pm] Natalie: Who needs full sentences? Or even full URLs? Compress your message that nobody cares about in 140 characters and let it fly!

[11:13pm] Az1568: lol

[11:13pm] • Bejinhan doesn't have a twitter

[11:13pm] Philippe|Wiki: sentence not nec-sary. alwyz cut vowls.

[11:13pm] Natalie: Bejinhan: And the world is a better place because of it.

[11:14pm] MichaelSnow: Philippe: And to think disemvoweling used to be a strategy for dealing with comment trolls on blogs. Now we get them to do it to themselves, voluntarily.

[11:14pm] Philippe|Wiki: lol@MichaelSnow: it's been SOOOO long since I thought of disemvoweling.

[11:14pm] Natalie: Oh, hello MichaelSnow.

[11:14pm] Natalie: Didn't see you there.

[11:14pm] MichaelSnow: Hi Natalie

[11:15pm] Philippe|Wiki: btw, if you ahavn'et already, check out the nifty new design on strategy.wikimedia.org's main page

[11:15pm] Az1568: pretty

[11:15pm] Philippe|Wiki: <pause to allow Natalie's sardonic comment....>

[11:16pm] Az1568: of course lol

[11:16pm] Philippe|Wiki: <check Natalie's pulse>

[11:16pm] eekim: i'm really happy with our progress thus far, but we have a long way to go

[11:16pm] eekim: our biggest needs are:

[11:16pm] eekim: 1. ongoing clean up/organization

[11:16pm] eekim: 2. discussing the questions

[11:17pm] eekim: would love help/ideas for how we can all continue to do these things

[11:17pm] Natalie: Sorry, focusing on more important things.

[11:17pm] Natalie: Back now.

[11:18pm] Natalie: Yes. New Main Page. Deckchairs and the Titanic.

[11:18pm] Natalie: Deck chairs, apparently. *

[11:18pm] Natalie: Who knew.

[11:18pm] Bejinhan: lol

[11:18pm] Az1568:

[11:18pm] Philippe|Wiki: There's my girl.

[11:19pm] MichaelSnow: How are we with the list of task forces?

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[11:20pm] Philippe|Wiki: MichaelSnow: China has launched

[11:20pm] scream is now known as NonvocalScream.

[11:20pm] Philippe|Wiki: The others, soon, I think. Eekim is working on that

[11:20pm] MichaelSnow: Sorry, I didn't mean status so much as the list itself

[11:20pm] Natalie: Heh.

[11:20pm] Philippe|Wiki: ahhh....http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Task_forces

[11:21pm] Philippe|Wiki: The list is there

[11:21pm] MichaelSnow: Do we feel good about the list we have? Is anything missing?

[11:21pm] eekim: it'll probably shrink

[11:21pm] eekim: i feel good about it. the question is, do others?

[11:21pm] MichaelSnow: Shrink because of overlap?

[11:22pm] eekim: overlap, number of qualified candidates, need for focus

[11:23pm] eekim: we're going to merge the two tech task forces (infrastructure and innovation)

[11:24pm] MichaelSnow: That might make sense

[11:24pm] eekim: driven largely by conversations with tim, brion, and mark

[11:24pm] eekim: they need to be involved in both conversations. no need to artificially separate the two.

[11:24pm] eekim: frankly, you can argue that they're closely related

[11:25pm] MichaelSnow: I was trying to figure out why Improving Quality and Expanding Content are each under their own heading

[11:25pm] eekim: they probably shouldn't be

[11:25pm] eekim: they both fit under quality

[11:25pm] eekim: still trying to tighten up the "Expanding Content" task force

[11:25pm] eekim: your comments would be much appreciated

[11:25pm] MichaelSnow: Right, then we would have nice big buckets for each of reach, participation, and quality

[11:25pm] eekim: (preferably directly on the wiki)

[11:26pm] Natalie: <eekim> it'll probably shrink ## That's what she said.

[11:26pm] MichaelSnow: plus the miscellaneous stuff that's more operational/organizational

[11:26pm] eekim: Natalie, for office hours, let's try to keep it clean

[11:27pm] Natalie: Haha, right.

[11:27pm] Natalie: She was just referring to Wikimedia Strategic Planning's task forces list, though.

[11:27pm] eekim: yeah, right

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[11:29pm] Bejinhan is now known as Bejinhan|lunch.

[11:30pm] • Philippe|Wiki is irritated that Cox.net appears to be blocking his smtp server. again.

[11:30pm] JC joined the chat room.

[11:30pm] eekim: Philippe, try using port 587

[11:31pm] Philippe|Wiki: eekim on wikimedia's? I don't mess with Steve's settings, he would beat me.

[11:32pm] eekim: use port 587 as your smtp server. i'm sure wikimedia is using that port. it's standard.

[11:32pm] eekim: and if it's not, just change it back to 25

[11:38pm] Philippe|Wiki: eh, I got it out on gmail.

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[11:49pm] • Philippe|Wiki is going to drop off now

[11:50pm] Philippe|Wiki: I left SF this morning and I'd like to go pet my dog

[11:50pm] Philippe|Wiki: see ya'll later.

[11:50pm] You are now known as Philippe|Sleep.

[11:50pm] eekim: bye philippe

[11:50pm] eekim: i'll stick around for another 10 minutes

[11:56pm] Bejinhan|lunch is now known as Bejinhan.

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[11:58pm] eekim: hi gerard

[11:58pm] eekim: slipped in just before the end

[11:58pm] eekim: i'm going to send you an email about the Local Languages Task Force tonight

[11:59pm] eekim: okay everyone

[11:59pm] eekim: office hours are officially over

[11:59pm] eekim: thanks for coming!