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I am Samuel Klein. I love strategy. I find Liquid Threads disconcerting, and while I've turned it on I wouldn't mind turning it off again...

old stuff

so my stab at organizing old stuff didn't get very far. What would be the best way to organize & collate what's happened before in terms of proposals? And summarize for here, or whereever? -- Phoebe 05:13, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi Sj, Phoebe,

I also find this site a bit frustrating, and I'm a bit put off by encouraging people to create more and more proposals when there are already hundreds of them being ignored all over. My hope for this stategic planning process, if nothing else, is that a focused way of collecting ideas, proposals, analysis, discussions, concerns, questions, etc... can be implemented and become a functioning part of wiki culture. Personally, I think the process should be rethought for a wiki, rather than just implementing the schedule, structure and nomenclature of the consultants. And who better to do it than the three of us...? -- Sam 07:21, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

I definitely agree with the idea of rethinking the collection/analysis process for a wiki. What I'd like to see happen is closer to what we started working on with community facilitation... and if you can do something well with three people, you can do it better with more, some of whom are good at facilitation :) Sj 14:20, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
I'm having a discussion with Eugene about this on his talk page. Perhaps you'd like to join in...? -- Sam


Hi there! Thanks for your interest in talking "Strategic Planning" at Wikimania 2009! Let's plan to meet during lunch, Day 2. Look us Eugene or I there! -- Philippe 02:37, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Emerging Strategic Priorities

Hi SJ: Thanks so much for your edits on Emerging Strategic Priorities. I really like the changes you made - much more clarity (and less jargon). I also am very happy you are engaging and hope it spurs others. On a totally separate note, I have a colleague who is very involved with NGOs and libraries in Nicaragua. I told him about OLPC and a Wikipedia for children that is loaded on it. He was very interested in access to Wikipedia information and computers (libraries have computers, but no Internet connection). Would you be willing to talk to him? Thanks so much, Serita 20:41, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

It is just an example of how language could be simplified elsewhere. Feel free to give your colleague my email. Sj 06:27, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Recent Changes Header

I'm very fond of the changes you made to the recent changes page. Thanks. -- Philippe 03:52, 19 September 2009 (UTC)


Hi Sj -

Yes, Stewards are welcome to admin here - but to save you the trouble of giving yourself the bit and such, I've given you sysop rights locally.  :) -- Philippe 01:06, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, Sj


re: task force confusion

I'm not alone :)

to do

help me make this great.

Also, you should make yourself liquid!

I don't mind trying new things. but liquidity has its surface tension.


Thread titleRepliesLast modified
Content scope008:42, 6 April 2010
Strategy Task Force118:51, 31 March 2010
research page001:34, 2 November 2009
Refactoring liquid threads104:10, 19 October 2009
Strategic Planning to-do's304:07, 19 October 2009

Content scope

Hi Sj!

I saw that Eekim had signed you up for the content scope task force. It would be great if you would like to join the discussion on the content scope task force talk page.

Dafer4508:42, 6 April 2010

Strategy Task Force

Glad you joined. :-) --Eekim 00:58, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Eekim00:58, 6 February 2010

Hi SJ,

Sorry we've had trouble connecting over the phone. Will try you today.

In other news, I've started a goals discussion on the strategy task force page. If you could jump in, that would be great. Thanks!

Eekim18:51, 31 March 2010

research page

LT is annoying in certain ways, it is true; it prevents one from editing a talk page normally once it's installed.

Anyway, seems Millosh already started on a research page, which is nice!

Phoebe01:34, 2 November 2009

Refactoring liquid threads

I'd like to refactor all lt's on my page. archive one, shrink and refactor another. It seems quite hard to do. Just getting access to the raw wikitext of a full thread seems almost forbidden. Thoughts?

Sj04:08, 19 October 2009

And not to pick nits, but this lt is coming out "most recent at the top" which breaks the order of my talk page. Is this a setting ?

Sj04:08, 19 October 2009

It isn't. But 'threaded discussion' does get its own section in my prefs. Sj

Sj04:10, 19 October 2009

Strategic Planning to-do's

Edited by author.
Last edit: 04:01, 19 October 2009

That's a nice looking page. Editing and signature format need to be very flexible. And this edited by author business is already on my nerves. 'Summarize' is nice, though.

Sj03:58, 19 October 2009

Perhaps. But can you link to it? Sj

Sj03:58, 19 October 2009

> Perhaps. But can you link to it? Sj

Ok, now this is just strange. the quoting without replacement worries me; redrawing the page a few times could be optimized; and when you save you don't get drawn down to the same section afterwards. These little features are important to uptake. I'm also not getting any scrolling as I type off the end of the tfour-line textarea, so right now for intance I can't see my cursor. Sj

Sj04:00, 19 October 2009

Can I outdent?

Sj04:03, 19 October 2009

I think not.

Sj04:03, 19 October 2009

I want to refactor this thread now and find it hard. Perhaps I can do so from the thread's own wikipage? Sj

Sj04:04, 19 October 2009

No, there seems to be no way to refactor a thread. I'm also not sure if there's any way to cut and paste sections of the thread somewhere else, other than the specific 'merge with another thead' option.

Sj04:06, 19 October 2009

I have a certain urge to delete this and leave it alone. But I'll return to it another day. Sj

Sj04:07, 19 October 2009