User talk:PauloHelene

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-- Philippe 05:28, 20 August 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Administrator Rights

Thank you for your very kind offer to serve as an administrator for this wiki. I'm creating new administrators today, and you're in the group that I'm giving the administrator tools to. I encourage you to use them rarely, and only after consideration. I prefer that pages be retained if there's any doubt as to their legitimacy. Please assume good faith on a massive scale. If you come across something questionable, please feel free to contact me, I'm almost always online. Please feel free to move proposals to the "Proposal:" namespace, but leave the redirect, for a while, so that if someone has put a link in their favorites, they can find their proposal.

With that said, also feel free to use the block button for inappropriate contributions (spammers should be blocked on sight) and anyone who is blatantly disruptive. The block template at {{blocked}} gives them instructions to contact me if it's an incorrect block. I will keep an eye on your use of the tools the first several days so that we both know that you're using them in the way that's calibrated with the other administrators. Please understand that if I contact you about an action, it's done with my thanks for your volunteerism.

Welcome, and please - again - accept my sincere thanks.

admin proposal

  • user:PauloHelene I am a beaurocrat of ko.wikia. It is a candidate of temperay wikimedia korea site. I just translate meta and strategy to korean. and backed up there. Actually, I preper historic articles to develop enhanced hangeul font.PauloHelene 15:23, 15 September 2009 (UTC) Yes check.svg DoneReply[reply]
  • User:Kwj2772 - I am an admin on Commons, kowikiquote. I've seen many abnormal translations in this wiki. To clean up, adminship is necessary. Thank you. Kwj2772 10:45, 10 October 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm adding the sysop bit momentarily. Yes check.svg Done -- Philippe 15:26, 11 October 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

wikimedia. site

Discussion regarding you

Paulo, please be aware that there is a discussion regarding you on the village pump. -- Philippe 15:20, 11 October 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Removal of sysop rights


In light of the disturbing information brought to my attention, I am removing your sysop rights pending conclusion. If we conclude that there is no reason not to have you as a sysop, I will reinstate you without prejudice. In the meantime, though, I have requested that the stewards remove them. You are requested to not use the rights until they have been removed. -- Philippe 20:41, 11 October 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Very very wrong translations in Korean from many IPs

I cannot understand articles created on strategywiki. I suspect wrong translation is from PauloHelene, because he made wrong/machine translations on MetaWiki and ko:wiki. Also, please note that request for translator right is denied on translatewiki (See betawiki:Project:Translator/Archive/2009/3 Section 126). I am requesting investigation against these abuses. Kwj2772 09:56, 10 October 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You might be right, although I cannot judge the quality of the tranlsations. User:PauloHelene is active under several IP's, as can be seen on edits on his userpage. Be noted that he has admin rights on this wiki, especially for translations into Korean, but has not used it so far. HenkvD 10:16, 10 October 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
As I just said on foundation-l, you are more than welcome to improve any translations on this wiki. :-) -- Philippe 15:13, 11 October 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Also, I'd like to make one small correction to Henkvd's statement above- Paulo's administrator rights on this wiki are not specific to Korean translations. I do not believe in limited adminship. As with all other administrators, Paulo is a trusted user and is welcome to use the administrator tools in any appropriate situation, not confined to Korean translations. -- Philippe 15:23, 11 October 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Trusted? What is a definition of trusted? How can be banned user who abused sock puppets and cracked bureaucrat account in ko.wikipedia called trusted? Kwj2772 15:27, 11 October 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Until today, I was not aware of that situation. I'm going to look into it. Paulo has not done anything to abuse my trust, and banning on one project is not necessarily disqualifying on others: that's pretty well established precedent. I will, however, look into it further. -- Philippe 16:11, 11 October 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
"improving" requires a lot of time and effort. We don't have enough time/effort to improve the whole contribution in a short time. He is just *vandalising* any random articles, some of critical ones and some of low-priority ones. "We can improve translation without banning someone" is identical to "We can improve Wikipedia without blocking someone". It might work in theory, but not in reality. He started to make a lot of mistranslation legacies on meta several years ago and we can't wipe out the garbages even until now. --Klutzy 15:42, 11 October 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You are also welcome to simply start the translations over. I'm not sure what other path there is? The definition of vandalism excludes any good faith contributions, though, and I do not see evidence that Paulo's actions are in bad faith. They may not be of high quality (I am not in a position to judge), but they are not vandalism, to my knowledge. -- Philippe 16:12, 11 October 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
"simply start the translations"? :( I've translated several meta and mediawiki messages since 2006. However, I gave up to fight against him by "improving" articles. There are limited translators, and even lots of important messages remained untranslated until now. It is not the problem which can be solved by indivisual translators' efforts. (He adds articles by just clicking a "translate" button!) It is continued from last year and we tried the method you said. The result is more garbages at more projects. That's why we are claiming here.
About "good faith" - He did not response about his bad productions at ko.wp. (ko:User_talk:Paulo(Korean link)), until he was blocked at ko.wp, and he is also blocked at ja.wp[1]. What do you think his good faith is? I really don't know. He haven't made a normal reply to (at least) Korean users. --Klutzy 18:26, 11 October 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
So what would you have us do about the bad translations? If you won't fix them, and don't have the time to re-do them, what shall I do? Simply delete and not have ko? I'd love some ideas. :( -- Philippe 18:32, 11 October 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
While this is investigated, I have remporarily had Paulo's sysop permissions taken away. -- Philippe 00:39, 12 October 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Although it was very very long, oppose-man insted of ombudsman continues to block something PauloHelene.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PauloHelene (talkcontribs)

? Kwj2772 09:51, 13 October 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Do you mean this blocks? Kwj2772 10:03, 13 October 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

No. of article page is about 1000? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs)

Please concentrate in this discussion and do not try to confuse us. I don't know what your comment means exactly. Kwj2772 12:13, 13 October 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm sorry, I don't understand the comment either, Paulo. Could you please rephrase it? -- Philippe 16:03, 13 October 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Next Steps

Dialog-information on.svg Next steps!
It's time to answer some questions! Would you check out the list of questions that were submitted by the community and others and try to answer some? -- Philippe 02:01, 22 October 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]

deleted proposal

(Deletion log); 22:54 . . user:Tempodivalse deleted "Proposal:Is the moon very very dense?" (appears to be a joke; doesn't discuss a WMF issue and isn't a proposal)


Paulo, you have been blocked indefinitely for participating in a bad faith/joke manner in this process. Your use of multiple IPs is noted. Checkuser evidence is in place. -- Philippe 07:21, 12 November 2009 (UTC)Reply[reply]