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Latest comment: 14 years ago by Eekim in topic Helping with the next phase

Welcome to the Wikimedia Foundation's strategic planning process. We appreciate your interest in taking part. You can start by reading our Community guidelines. Check out the links on the Main Page and find an area that interests you. Please feel free to ask me any questions, or you may leave a message on the Village pump.

-- Philippe 19:11, 29 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

Daughters and affiliated

Hi CQ -

Could you explain to me a little more how you envision the daughters templates and affiliated being used? I'm curious to see what you have in mind. Thanks! -- Philippe 03:45, 30 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

PS - the bureaucrat link on your userpage is busted. :( It's throwing in the strategy subdomain.

"A picture is worth a thousand words." The {{daughters}} template is fairly universal. With it across the top of a table and the Language list down the side, multilingual navigation will be easier both to create and to use. See v:Wikiversity:Strategy and associated content for insight. CQ 07:24, 30 July 2009 (UTC)Reply
PS - User:Mu301 and I are two different people. I'm only a custodian. The link works now. When I find out how to, I will add v: to the interwiki map if I have the necessary permissions and nobody beats me to it. The workaround is to use [[w:v:article name]] for now. ;)

Wikibooks and Wikiversity

This relationship is definative of Bucky Fuller's Critical Path scenario. If we don't get this right, we're doomed. CQ 11:16, 28 August 2009 (UTC)Reply


The catalyst role has been defined and initiated at Wikiversity based on Rob Levin's seminal work Catalysts which begins:

"The catalyst role is critical to freenode and an essential building block of channels. No one is required to be a catalyst, but the users who perform this role ensure the smooth and efficient functioning of the network."

See the full text in place at freenode our irc host. CQ 11:23, 28 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

Process, Task forces and Wikimedia Chapters

MediaWiki language and project support for Wikimedia Chapters looks like a good place to work, so we can camp the Wikiversity:MediaWiki Project here for the purpose of discovering the structures and processes. It seems to me that Process, Task forces and Wikimedia Chapters need some infrastructure in order to be dynamic enough to meet the need. I'm going to start with mw:Category:Interwiki and try to build a master table, some project/language templates ( such as {{project}}, {{projects}}, {{language}}, {{languages}}, {{chapter}}, {{chapters}} ) and a page creation template for your basic Wikimedia Chapter for Wikimedia Chapters. Make sense? CQ 21:20, 1 September 2009 (UTC)Reply

Why have separate categories for "Chapter" and "Chapters"? Wouldn't that just encourage data fragmentation? -- Philippe 01:18, 2 September 2009 (UTC)Reply
Well, they aren't categories. They are (or would be) templates. {{chapter}} is for tools and pages pertaining to one chapter at a time and {{chapters}} is for when you need to see all chapters together. Same with {{language}} / {{languages}} and {{project}} / {{projects}}. In a UML schema, this multiplicityKind separation helps the Classifier_(UML) with context (where to place what) especially once the model goes on line.
I'm looking at the whole schema as a transparent Semantic Web mechanism that is fast enough to capture and catalogue changes and references very quickly in a tight binding model for data integrity. (Compare metaphorically to tight binding in solid state physics). This schema provides a dynamic grass roots community to quickly join into a larger fray with full representation of its interests and resources. (what got placed where) --CQ 02:27, 2 September 2009 (UTC)Reply


Can you reprase with you mean here? I can't seem to find whatever you're referencing. -- Philippe 23:27, 1 September 2009 (UTC)Reply

That's for when the The Bridgespan Group page is created. --CQ 00:14, 2 September 2009 (UTC)Reply
OK, so what does the question "What do you mean "all of you?" What about "us" ? " refer to? I'm trying to answer your question, but need a point of reference. Also, that's not an accurate description of the Bridgespan Group... I'd rather just not have the page until there's a need, if that's okay with you....-- Philippe 01:12, 2 September 2009 (UTC)Reply
OK the question came from some guy's user page... He said he was the "leader" and worked for The Bridgespan Group (red linked page) something and couldn't do his job without "all of you". I'll have to retrace my steps. Hang on. --CQ 01:27, 2 September 2009 (UTC)Reply
Ah here it is .. looks like you found it. Thanks. As you know, there is no "us and them" around here. --CQ 01:40, 2 September 2009 (UTC)Reply
I think you're picking at semantics. Eugene is, indeed, the Project Manager for this project. He leads the staff and the consulting teams. He is the principle for Blue Oxen Associates, not for TBG. I think it's also entirely appropriate to say that he looks forward to working with "all of you!" (meaning anyone who might read the page). Either way, if you want an answer to something like that, it's best to reference it... or, you know, ask the guy who wrote it. His talk page is right there. -- Philippe 01:43, 2 September 2009 (UTC)Reply

DynamicPageList on steroids

DynamicPageList and DynamicPageList (Wikimedia) and other extensions need to be examined in depth. My intuition is that mw:API:Client Codes can be crafted and tuned to the ways of m:Wikimedians of all sorts. What we need is an evolution of the tools that extend functionality of the collaborative platform to a more accessible community-driven model. Categories, templates, namespaces, portals and other components can be "tuned" to specific groups of users in an even more pervasive and dynamic way. Many talented coders have already paved the way of doing this using everything from CategoryTrees and simple templates to very complex bots, parser functions, and custom applications. I would like to incrementally apply some of these ideas as an outreach of Wikiversity's MediaWiki Project here in the strategic planning workspace, if it's OK with everybody. 03:05, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

I'd actually rather not. It's important that this be a space that's comfortable for people to work in - applying new tools is something that Eugene and I think very carefully about. I'm willing to consider specific ideas, but I'm not comfortable with such a blanket approval. This particular wiki, while community facing and community driven, is Foundation managed. In addition, there are other modifications coming down the pike that may impact functionality. For the record, proposals of changes to the strategy wiki should probably go on Village Pump where they can be seen by the wider community, not just your own talk page. -- Philippe 03:12, 2 September 2009 (UTC)Reply

First convenors resolution

CQ, have a look at First convenors resolution, edit if necessary, and please sign if you do agree. Dedalus 09:28, 12 September 2009 (UTC)Reply

Category talk:Wikimedia Chapters

See, please. Nemo 13:52, 12 September 2009 (UTC)Reply

Next Steps

Next steps!
It's time to answer some questions! Would you check out the list of questions that were submitted by the community and others and try to answer some? -- Philippe 01:25, 22 October 2009 (UTC)Reply

Helping with the next phase

Hi Charley,

Thank you for all of your contributions to the strategy wiki to date! The strategic planning process wouldn't be where it is today without all of your help.

We're about to move into the third and final phase of the process, and in many ways, this will be the most challenging. I'm hoping you will continue to be an active presence in shaping the movement's five year strategic plan.

Here are some concrete suggestions as to how you can help moving forward:

  • Take a look at Strategic Planning:Hosts. Your name is already there, but some of the text has changed, and we want to encourage people who listed themselves there to take a more active role.
  • Help organize and improve this wiki! Starting next week (January 18, 2010), we're going to be encouraging many more people to come participate, and we want to make sure this wiki is as presentable as possible. A comprehensive list of things to do is at Strategic Planning:To-do list.
  • Invite people to participate! Encourage volunteers to discuss Task force/Recommendations.
  • Finally, we need to clearly describe what this final phase is going to look like. In particular, we could use feedback and discussion on Strategic Planning:Decision-Making.

Let me know what you think! Many, many thanks!

--Eekim 00:28, 12 January 2010 (UTC)Reply